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Message de chocolatcitron posté le 03-11-2019 à 01:14:33 (S | E | F)
Hello!
I wrote an English text about"kittens". Would you help me for marking, please? I purpose to cut it in four equal parts, in order to help you, and for a better work together. I always answer the forum and give tit for tat until my work is said to be perfect.I know how much time is needed for marking! Here is it. Thanks for your great help! Sorry, I’m afraid I’ve made some mistakes, but I can’t see them...

If you don’t mind, just work on the first part please, then, when it is really perfect, we’ll work on the second part, and so on, until the end:

Kittens are the babbies of a she-cat and lots of he-cats. Kittens can’t see neither hear, completely death and blind,until they are tend ay old. So, they move by crawling to their mother’s odour to be fed. Each of them choose a breath, and the first arrived, the first served, untill the end of their weanings. They already meow and purr before opening their eyes, and hearing the noises around them ! Of course, they completely depend on their mother till they are one month old. They had drunk only milk, but begin to taste their mother’s meal.
As they get very sharped teeth and claws, their mother suffer while feeding her kittens. /////The end of the first part.

From now, they are beginning to do as their mother does, litle by litle, their mother teaches them how to become independant and don’t want them to be feed at her teats, so their mother pushes them away and yowls or gives some swipes of the claws to her babies till the two month old. Untill they are three-month old, kittens have to be taught a lot about their world, from their mother, from their brothers and sisters, and every beeing around them. This is the main time for their socialisation. They will be taught how not to bite, and how they have to control their claws ! Why all the cats have not the same colour for their furr ? Because their mother needs to have lots of sexe to be pregnant, and their partners tomcats turn around the females… when they are receptive because they are in heat.///// The end of the second part.

Kittens are not toys. Their needs must be satisfied and they are very sensitive. Adoption is for all life long, and people should know it is a commitment of any moments in the life of both of them. We musn’t give up an animal, because we have got lots of problems in our life, because our pet is sick and that costs a lot of money, or because it’s time to go on holiday. The law asks us not to adopt an animal which is less than two months old… We have no right to purpose to the other people a so young animal, which needs his/her mother till he/she gets at least three months old./////The end of the third part.

My she-kitten arrived at five and a half weeks old at home, but had lost her mother when she was only three weeks old ! She had been very agressive towards myself for five years : my doctor, my friends, my sisters told me I had to give up her. I 've never done that !!! My she-cat was in my life, and I had to learn so much about her behaviour. And naturally, I did ! I never regreted to keep her near me, although she bit me and violently scratched me because she could neither hold hersef quiet nor her outpouring feelings and her anger towards the noisy home in which we were living in! Since we have moved, my cat who is now fourteen years old, is quieter, provided I 've also known how to read all her feelings… from her body language!/////The end of the fourth part.


Réponse : Texte/ Kittens de swan85, postée le 03-11-2019 à 20:49:29 (S | E)
Bonsoir Chocolatcitron.

Merci pour cet exercice.
Voici ce que je vous propose pour la première partie.
Question ; je n'ai pas trouvé de traduction pour le mot "ay" dans "are tend ay old". J'ai changé à mon idée.
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A bientôt.

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Modifié par lucile83 le 03-11-2019 21:02
Ce n'est pas un exercice C'est une aide à la correction.
Correction toute faite effacée.



Réponse : Texte/ Kittens de here4u, postée le 03-11-2019 à 22:09:04 (S | E)
Hello!
Donc, jouons le "jeu" de la correction positive en ne fournissant pas la solution escomptée, mais en signalant la faute !

Kittens are the babbies of a she-cat and lots of he-cats. Kittens can’t see neither hear, completely death and blind,until they are tend ay old. (That's a relief! I'm not the only one to do it!) So, they move by crawling * to their mother’s odour to be fed. Each of them choose a breath, and the first arrived, the first served**, untill the end of their weanings. They already meow and purr before opening their eyes, and hearing the noises around them! Of course, they completely depend on their mother till they are one month old. They had drunk only milk, but begin to taste their mother’s meal.
As they get very sharped teeth and claws, their mother suffer while feeding her kittens. /////The end of the first part.

* I think I'd put a word here to make the sentence clearer...
** the expression is "first come, first served!"



Réponse : Texte/ Kittens de chocolatcitron, postée le 04-11-2019 à 01:04:43 (S | E)
Hello!
Donc, jouons le "jeu" de la correction positive en ne fournissant pas la solution escomptée, mais en signalant la faute !

Merci Here4u de venir à mon secours !
Comme pour tes forums, je mets tes indications de fautes en majuscules, (je ne crie pas pour autant), ce qui te facilitera, mais aussi à moi, le travail de relecture pour améliorer mon texte.

Voici ma première correction suite à tes indications :
Kittens are the BABBY-CAT of a she-cat and lots of he-cats. Kittens CAN NEITHER HEAR NOR SEE, completely DEAF and blind, until they are TEN DAY OLD. So, they move by crawling UP* to their mother’s odour to be fed. Each of them GET A TEAT, and FIRST COME, FIRST SERVED UNTIL the end of their weanings. They already meow and purr before opening their eyes, and hearing the noises around them! Of course, they completely depend on their mother till they are one month old. They had drunk only milk, but begin to taste their mother’s meal.
As they get very SHARPENED NEW teeth and claws, their mother SUFFERS while feeding her kittens. /////The end of the first part.


* I think I'd put a word here to make the sentence clearer...
** the expression is "first come, first served!"

J'ai rajouté up après crawling, dans le sens où ils rampent mais comme ils sont minuscules, la bonne odeur des mamelles de leurs mère est plus haute qu'ils ne le sont. Est-ce cela que tu voulais me faire dire ?

Tend ay old = ten day old ! : Les espaces étaient mal placés, et je n'ai pas vu lors du transfert

Le fait de s'exposer publiquement fait aussi prendre conscience de ses erreurs, et c'est très formateur. Je confondais death et deaf… deux sons qui pour mes oreilles sont pareils. Maintenant, je ne les confondrais plus, du moins pour leurs sens si ce n'est encore phonétiquement…

Bonjour et merci Swan ! Je demande à travailler, pas à ce qu'on me livre le travail entièrement fait sur un plateau d'argent… Mon seul but ici est d'améliorer mon expression écrite, j'y travaillerai le temps qu'il faudra.

Bonjour Lucile, toujours très attentive, merci !



Réponse : Texte/ Kittens de here4u, postée le 04-11-2019 à 08:58:54 (S | E)
Hello!

Kittens are the BABBY-CAT (cohérence ? tu commences au pluriel, tu dois continuer au pluriel ...) of a she-cat and lots of he-cats (= tomcats!). Kittens CAN NEITHER HEAR NOR SEE, completely DEAF and blind, until they are TEN DAY (ici, ce n'est pas un adjectif invariable, mais bien un NOM!)OLD. So, they move by crawling UP*(si tu laisses ta phrase telle qu'elle est, il te manque -encore- un participe adjectif ...) to their mother’s odour to be fed. Each of them GET (each= singulier !) A TEAT, and FIRST COME, FIRST SERVED UNTIL the end of their weanings. They already meow and purr before opening their eyes, and hearing the noises around them! Of course, they completely depend on their mother till they are one month old. They had drunk ( Pour justifier ce past perfect, tu as besoin d'un repère temporel.) only milk, but begin to taste their mother’s meal.
As they get very SHARPENED NEW teeth and claws, their mother SUFFERS while feeding her kittens. /////The end of the first part.



Réponse : Texte/ Kittens de chocolatcitron, postée le 04-11-2019 à 16:34:56 (S | E)
Hello!

Kittens are the BABIES-CATS of a she-cat and lots of TOMCATS. Kittens can neither hear nor see, completely deaf and blind, until they are TEN DAYS OLD. So, they move by crawling up BY FOLLOWED CLOSELY to their mother’s odour to be fed. Each of them GETS a teat, and first come, first served, until the end of their weanings. They already meow and purr before opening their eyes, and hearing the noises around them! Of course, they completely depend on their mother till they are one month old. SINCE THEIR BIRTH, they had drunk only milk, but begin to taste their mother’s meal.
As they get very sharpened new teeth and claws, their mother suffers while feeding her kittens. /////The end of the first part.


"(si tu laisses ta phrase telle qu'elle est, il te manque -encore- un participe adjectif ...)"
J'ai ajouté to follow closely = suivre à la trace… est-ce cela que tu me demandes ? Dans le sens français, c'est ce que je veux dire, mais dans le sens anglais, le rendu est-il bon ?
J'ai vu qu'un participe adjectif en anglais ressemblait à : (sur Wall street English)…
To write -> written note
To break -> broken arm
To ruin -> ruined cake
To slam -> slammed shore
To think -> thought idea

Here4u pour ton aide précieuse.



Réponse : Texte/ Kittens de here4u, postée le 05-11-2019 à 22:14:33 (S | E)
Hello, dear!

Kittens are the BABIES-CATS Qu'est-ce que tu me fais là ? ) of a she-cat and lots of TOMCATS. Kittens can neither hear nor see, (are) completely deaf and blind, until they are TEN DAYS OLD. So, they move by crawling up BY FOLLOWED CLOSELY to their mother’s odour to be fed. Each of them GETS a teat, and first come, first served, until the end of their weanings. They already meow and purr before opening their eyes, and hearing the noises around them! Of course, they completely depend on their mother till they are one month old. SINCE THEIR BIRTH, they had drunk only milk, but begin to taste their mother’s meal.
As they get very sharpened new teeth and claws, their mother suffers while feeding her kittens. /////The end of the first part.


"(si tu laisses ta phrase telle qu'elle est, il te manque -encore- un participe adjectif ...)"Tu ne m'as pas mis le participe adjectif que je pensais que tu voulais mettre !
J'ai ajouté to follow closely = suivre à la trace… est-ce cela que tu me demandes ? NO! Dans le sens français, c'est ce que je veux dire, mais dans le sens anglais, le rendu est-il bon ?Non ...
J'ai vu qu'un participe adjectif en anglais ressemblait à : (sur Wall street English)…
To write -> written note
To break -> broken arm
To ruin -> ruined cake
To slam -> slammed shore
To think -> thought idea
J'ai pensé que tu voulais dire "attiré par" ... mais j'ai pu me tromper ...



Réponse : Texte/ Kittens de here4u, postée le 05-11-2019 à 22:19:58 (S | E)
Hello! (suite)

From now xx,* they are beginning to do as their mother does, litle by litle, their mother teaches them how to become independant and don’t want them to be feed at her teats, so their mother pushes them away and yowls or gives some swipes of the claws to her babies till the two month old. Untill they are three-month old, kittens have to be taught a lot about their world, from their mother, from their brothers and sisters, and every beeing around them. This is the main time for their socialisation. They will be taught how not to bite, and how they have to control their claws! Why all the cats have not the same colour for their furr ? Because their mother needs to have lots of sexe to be pregnant, and their partners tomcats turn around the females… when they are receptive because they are in heat.///// The end of the second part.

* Là, tu te positionnes dans le présent, mais comme c'est de la narration, tu devrais être dans le passé ... Tu peux laisser ...




Réponse : Texte/ Kittens de chocolatcitron, postée le 05-11-2019 à 23:05:10 (S | E)
Hello, dear!

Kittens are the CATS'BABIES * of a she-cat and lots of TOMCATS. Kittens can neither hear nor see, (are) completely deaf and blind, until they are TEN DAYS OLD. So, they move by crawling up ATTRACTED BY their mother’s odour to be fed. Each of them GETS a teat, and first come, first served, until the end of their weanings. They already meow and purr before opening their eyes, and hearing the noises around them! Of course, they completely depend on their mother till they are one month old. SINCE THEIR BIRTH, they had drunk only milk, but begin to taste their mother’s meal.
As they get very SHARP new teeth and claws, their mother suffers while feeding her kittens. /////The end of the first part.


* = (, tu vois que je confonds tout !). Finalement vais-je y arriver ?
J'ai pensé que tu voulais dire "attiré par" ... mais j'ai pu me tromper ... non, tu ne t'es pas trompée c'est une odeur irrésistible nécessairement vitale pour eux… Merci !


La suite :

From now,* they are beginning to do as their mother does, litle by litle, their mother teaches them how to become INDEPENDENT and don’t want them to be FED at her teats, so their mother pushes them away and yowls or gives some swipes of the claws to her babies till THEY ARE TWO MONTHS OLD. THEN UNTIL they are THREE MONTHS OLD, kittens have to be taught a lot about their world, from their mother, from their brothers and sisters, and every LIVING BEING around them. This is the main time for their socialisation. They will be taught how not to bite, and how they have to control their claws! WHY ARE NOT ALL THE CATS OF A LITER OF THE SAME COLOUR OR BREED ? WHY THEIR FUR IS SO DIFFERENT FROM OTHERS BABIES'? Because their mother needs to MATE SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE BEING pregnant, and tomcats turn around the females… when they are receptive because they are in heat.///// The end of the second part.


* Là, tu te positionnes dans le présent, mais comme c'est de la narration, tu devrais être dans le passé ... Tu peux laisser ...
Oui, j'utilise le présent. Pour tous les chats : c'est une vérité par rapport à leur évolution naturelle face à leur indépendance acquise par étapes successives. Dois je utiliser le passé même dans ce cas ? Je ne dépeins pas une situation précise… à un moment donné. C'est un cliché universel propre à tous les chats.

Merci pour ta correction : I did my best. I wish I did it well…



Réponse : Texte/ Kittens de here4u, postée le 06-11-2019 à 09:32:29 (S | E)
Hello!
You did!

Pour revenir au présent passé, tu dois respecter une certaine cohérence ... (par exemple, si tu es au présent de vérité générale, tu devrais mettre non pas: SINCE THEIR BIRTH, they had drunk only milk, mais "they have drunk"...

From now XX ,* they are beginning to do as their mother does/ (like their mother)/ to imitate...,/ litle by litle, their mother teaches them how to become INDEPENDENT and don’t want them to be FED at her teats, so (Boff!)their mother pushes them away and yowls or gives some swipes of the claws to her babies till THEY ARE TWO MONTHS OLD. THEN UNTIL they are THREE MONTHS OLD, kittens have to be taught a lot about their world, from their mother, from their brothers and sisters, and every LIVING BEING around them. This is the main time for their socialisation. They will be taught how not to bite, and how they have to control their claws!

WHY ARE NOT ALL THE CATS OF A LITTER OF THE SAME COLOUR OR BREED?OK. WHY THEIR FUR IS SO DIFFERENT FROM OTHERS BABIES'? Because their mother needs to MATE SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE BEING pregnant, and tomcats turn around the females… when they are receptive because they are in heat.///// The end of the second part.





Réponse : Texte/ Kittens de chocolatcitron, postée le 06-11-2019 à 14:52:27 (S | E)
Hello, dear!

Kittens are the cats'babies of a she-cat and lots of tomcats. Kittens can neither hear nor see, are completely deaf and blind, until they are ten days old. So, they move by crawling up attracted by their mother’s odour to be fed. Each of them gets a teat, and first come, first served, until the end of their weanings. They already meow and purr before opening their eyes, and hearing the noises around them! Of course, they completely depend on their mother till they are one month old. Since their birth, they HAVE drunk only milk, but begin to taste their mother’s meal.
As they get very sharp new teeth and claws, their mother suffers while feeding her kittens. /////The end of the first part.

Merci !

* Là, tu te positionnes dans le présent, mais comme c'est de la narration, tu devrais être dans le passé ... Tu peux laisser ...
Oui, j'utilise le présent. Pour tous les chats : c'est une vérité par rapport à leur évolution naturelle face à leur indépendance acquise par étapes successives. Dois je utiliser le passé même dans ce cas ? Je ne dépeins pas une situation précise… à un moment donné. C'est un cliché universel propre à tous les chats.

La suite :

Pour revenir au présent passé, tu dois respecter une certaine cohérence ... (par exemple, si tu es au présent de vérité générale, tu devrais mettre non pas: SINCE THEIR BIRTH, they had drunk only milk, mais "they have drunk"...
Have drunk est un présent qui ressemble beaucoup au passé composé français… de par sa construction : toujours cette mauvaise habitude de penser en français concernant les temps des verbes… : je doute encore de moi… et pour cause, (…) je commence tout juste à comprendre les subtilités, et surtout il me faut oublier de penser en français dans les verbes aussi, puisque pour le reste j'y arrive, sauf avec les adjectifs ou les noms composés où là, ce n'est vraiment pas automatique car je fais toujours des inversions cocasses. Merci Here4u


FROM NOW ON,* they are beginning to IMITATE their mother, litle by litle, their mother teaches them how to become independent and don’t want them to be fed at her teats, THAT'S WHY their mother pushes them away and yowls or gives some swipes of the claws to her babies till they are two months old. Then until they are three months old, kittens have to be taught a lot about their world, from their mother, from their brothers and sisters, and every living being around them. This is the main time for their socialisation. They will be taught how not to bite, and how they have to control their claws!

Why are not all the cats of a litter of the same colour or breed? WHY THEIR COATS ARE so different from others babies'? Because their mother needs to mate several times before being pregnant, and tomcats turn around the females… when they are receptive because they are in heat.///// The end of the second part.

my dear Here4u!
, thanks my dear Lucile !!! I hadn't seen this mistake !
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Modifié par chocolatcitron le 06-11-2019 15:09





Réponse : Texte/ Kittens de lucile83, postée le 06-11-2019 à 15:04:21 (S | E)
Hello,
...the cats of a litter of the ...



Réponse : Texte/ Kittens de chocolatcitron, postée le 20-11-2019 à 19:03:29 (S | E)
Hello ! Who would want to help me, please ? Thanks for your help.



Réponse : Texte/ Kittens de here4u, postée le 20-11-2019 à 20:48:31 (S | E)
Hello!

Je pensais avoir terminé cette correction ... Pourquoi n'as-tu pas relancé ?

FROM NOW ON,* they are beginning to IMITATE their mother, litle by litle, their mother teaches them how to become independent and don’t want them to be fed at her teats, THAT'S WHY their mother pushes them away and yowls or gives some swipes of the claws to her babies till they are two months old. Then until they are three months old, kittens have to be taught a lot about their world, from their mother, from their brothers and sisters, and every living being around them. This is the main time for their socialisation. They will be taught how not to bite, and how they have to control their claws!

Why are not all the cats of a litter of the same colour or breed? OK jusqu'ici !


WHY THEIR COATS ARE(Là, tu n'as pas fait une forme interrogative ! ) so different from others babies'? Because their mother needs to mate several times before being pregnant, and tomcats turn around the females… when they are receptive because they are in heat.///// The end of the second part.

Kittens are not toys. Their needs must be satisfied and they are very sensitive. Adoption is for all life long, and people should know it is a commitment of any moments in the life of both of them . We musn’t give up an animal because we have got lots of problems in our life,OR because our pet is sick and that costs a lot of money, or because it’s time to go on holiday. The law asks us not to adopt an animal which is less than two months old… We have no right to purpose to the other people a so young animal, which needs his/her mother till he/she gets at least three months old./////The end of the third part.
My she-kitten arrived at five and a half weeks old at home,-mal dit...) but had lost her mother when she was only three weeks old! She had been very agressive towards myself for five years : my doctor, my friends, my sisters told me I had to give up her. I 've never done that!!! My she-cat was in my life, and I had to learn so much about her behaviour. And naturally, I did! I never regreted to keep her near me, although she bit me and violently scratched me because she could neither hold hersef quiet (trop calqué...)nor her outpouring feelings and her anger towards the noisy home in which we were living in!(tu ne peux pas répéter ainsi la particule adverbiale...) Since we have moved, my cat who is now fourteen years old, is quieter, provided I 've also known how to read all her feelings… from her body language!/////The end of the fourth part.





Réponse : Texte/ Kittens de chocolatcitron, postée le 21-11-2019 à 00:13:47 (S | E)
Hello my dear Here4u !
Thank you very much for your help!

WHY ARE THEIR COATS so different from OTHER babies'? Because their mother needs to mate several times before being pregnant, and tomcats turn around the females… when they are receptive because they are in heat.///// The end of the second part.

Kittens are not toys. Their needs must be satisfied and they are very sensitive. Adoption is FOR EVER, and people should know it is a commitment AT ANY MOMENT FOR the OWNER. We musn’t ABANDON an animal because we have got lots of problems in EVERY DAY LIFE, OR because our pet is sick and that costs a lot of money, or because it’s time to go on holiday. The law asks us not to adopt an animal which is YOUNGER THAN two months old… ACCORDING TO LOW, IN FRANCE, WE MUSTN'T ENTRUST A SO YOUNG ANIMAL, which needs his/her mother till he/she gets at least three months old./////The end of the third part.
My she-kitten CAME IN MY LIFE AT FIVE WEEKS AND A HALF, but had lost her mother when she was only three weeks old! She WAS very AGGRESSIVE towards myself for five years : my doctor, my friends, my sisters told me I had to ABANDON her. I 've never done that!!! My she-cat was in my life, and I had to learn so much about her behaviour. And naturally, I did! I never REGRETTED KEEPING her near me, although she bit me and violently scratched me because she could neither HAVE SELF CONTROL nor her outpouring feelings and her anger towards the noisy home in which we were living! Since we have moved, my cat who is now fourteen years old, is quieter, PROVIDING THAT I also KNOW how to read all her feelings… from her body language!/////The end of the fourth part.

Have a very sweet night!
See you soon.



Réponse : Texte/ Kittens de chocolatcitron, postée le 22-11-2019 à 18:03:48 (S | E)
Hello !
… Je relance juste la page…
Bonne soirée !
Cordialement.



Réponse : Texte/ Kittens de chocolatcitron, postée le 23-11-2019 à 15:53:37 (S | E)
Hello !
… Je relance juste la page…
Bonne soirée !
Cordialement.



Réponse : Texte/ Kittens de here4u, postée le 23-11-2019 à 16:39:10 (S | E)
Hello ! pufff! pufff! J'arrive !

WHY ARE THEIR COATS so different from OTHER babies'? Because their mother needs to mate several times before being pregnant, and tomcats turn around the females… when they are receptive because they are in heat.///// The end of the second part.

Kittens are not toys. Their needs must be satisfied and they are very sensitive. Adoption is FOR EVER, and people should know it is a commitment AT ANY MOMENT FOR the OWNER. We musn’t ABANDON an animal because we have got lots of problems in EVERY DAY LIFE, OR because our pet is sick and that(the vet?) costs a lot of money, or because it’s time to go on holiday. The law asks us not to adopt an animal which is YOUNGER THAN two months old… ACCORDING TO LOW, IN FRANCE, WE MUSTN'T ENTRUST A SO YOUNG ANIMAL, which needs his/her(si tu lui confères "his/her", ce n'est pas un "it", donc pas un "which" !) mother till he/she gets at least three months old./////The end of the third part.
My she-kitten CAME IN MY LIFE AT FIVE WEEKS AND A HALF, but had lost her mother when she was only three weeks old! She WAS very AGGRESSIVE towards myself for five years : my doctor, my friends, my sisters told me I had toshould ABANDON her. I 've never done that!!! My she-cat was in my life, and I had to learn so much about her behaviour. And naturally, I did! I never REGRETTED KEEPING her near me, although she bit me and violently scratched me because she could neither HAVE SELF CONTROL nor her outpouring feelings and her anger towards the noisy home in which we were living! Since we have moved, my cat who is now fourteen years old, is quieter, PROVIDING THAT I also KNOW how to read all her feelings… from her body language!/////The end of the fourth part.

😺 😺



Réponse : Texte/ Kittens de chocolatcitron, postée le 23-11-2019 à 19:02:29 (S | E)
Hello, my dear Here4u !

Why are their coats so different from other babies'? Because their mother needs to mate several times before being pregnant, and tomcats turn around the females… when they are receptive because they are in heat.///// The end of the second part.


Voici mes modifications et explications pour améliorer ce texte, d'après tes remarques : Here4u !❤️

Là, dans ce paragraphe je reste sur la valeur anglaise de l'animal : it/which (neutre), puisqu'il s'agit des chats adoptés en général, et que je n'ai pas d'attachements particulier à eux, ce qui me permettrait de leur donner la valeur d'un membre familial : she/he/who.

Kittens are not toys. Their needs must be satisfied and they are very sensitive. Adoption is for ever, and people should know it is a commitment at any moment for the owner. We musn’t abandon an animal because we have got lots of problems in every day life, or because our pet is sick and IT costs a lot of money (ITS VET, ITS GROOMING OR ITS CATSITTER FOR SOME OF THEM), or ITS HAIR EVERYWHERE IN THE HOUSE, or because it’s time to go on holiday, or FOR ANY OTHER BAD REASON. The law asks us not to adopt an animal which is younger than two months old… According to LAW, in France, we can't entrust ANYBODY a so young animal which needs ITS mother till IT gets at least three months old./////The end of the third part.


C'est ma chatte, elle est un des membres de ma famille, je repasse à she/who :
😺 😺
My she-kitten came in my life at five weeks and a half, but had lost her mother when she was only three weeks old! She was very aggressive towards ME for five years : my doctor, my friends, my sisters told me I SHOULD abandon her. I 've never done that!!! My she-cat was in my life, and I had to learn so much about her behaviour. And naturally, I did! I never regretted keeping her near me, although she bit me and VIOLENTLY LACERATED ME because she could neither have self control, nor her outpouring feelings and her anger towards the noisy home in which we were living! Since we have moved, my cat is now fourteen years old, SHE KEEPS HER COOL, MOST OF THE TIME, providing that I also know how to read all her feelings… from her body language!/////The end of the fourth part.

Concernant ma chatte, ils m'ont lourdement forcé la main pour que je l'abandonne… : c'est pour cela que j'avais mis : had to. Un sentiment d'obligation, purement injuste et lâche, véritable crève cœur, une obligation indépendante de ma volonté à laquelle je n'ai bien sûr pas obéi, malgré les pressions répétées sur des années ! Should reste du conseil. Je suis heureuse aujourd'hui d'avoir désobéi, d'avoir vécu ce long chemin avec elle, et ce pour encore, je l'espère, de belles et longues années !

Bonne soirée !
J'avais fait, finalement, beaucoup d'erreurs !
See you soon.



Réponse : Texte/ Kittens de here4u, postée le 23-11-2019 à 23:07:07 (S | E)
Hello!

Mais non! Tu n'as pas fait beaucoup d'erreurs, mais plus on relit, plus on devient exigeant ... et plus on voit de "petites choses" à améliorer ...

Kittens are not toys. Their needs must be satisfied and they are very sensitive. Adoption is for ever, and people should know it is a constant commitment at any moment for the owner. We musn’t abandon an animal because we have got lots of problems in every day life, or because our pet is sick and (requires) IT costs a lot of money (ITS VET, ITS GROOMING OR ITS CATSITTER FOR SOME OF THEM), or ITS HAIR EVERYWHERE IN THE HOUSE, or because it’s time to go on holiday, or FOR ANY OTHER BAD REASON. The law asks us not to adopt an animal which is younger than two months old… According to XXX LAW, in France, we can't entrust ANYBODY a so young animalLien internet
which needs ITS mother till IT gets at least three months old./////The end of the third part.


C'est ma chatte, elle est un des membres de ma famille, je repasse à she/who :
😺 😺
My she-kitten came inTO my life at five weeks and a half, but had lost her mother when she was only three weeks old! She was very aggressive towards ME for five years: my doctor, my friends, my sisters told me I SHOULD abandon her. I 've never done(refused to do so) that!!! My she-cat was in my life, and I had to learn so much about her behaviour... And naturally, I did! I never regretted keeping her near me, although she bit me and VIOLENTLY LACERATED ME because she could neither have self control, nor her outpouring feelings and her anger towards the noisy home in which we were living! Since we have moved, my cat is now fourteen years old(ta construction est à revoir ...), SHE KEEPS HER COOL, MOST OF THE TIME, providing that I also know how to read all her feelings… from her body language!/////The end of the fourth part.

😺😇😺



Réponse : Texte/ Kittens de chocolatcitron, postée le 24-11-2019 à 03:10:21 (S | E)
Hello!
Je relève ton défi avec plaisir : toujours partante pour améliorer mon expression : merci Here4u !❤️

Kittens are not toys. Their needs must be satisfied and they are very sensitive. Adoption is for ever, and people should know it is a NON-FLUCTUATING commitment ALL THE TIME for the owner. We musn’t abandon an animal because we have got lots of problems in every day life, or because our pet is sick and REQUIRES a lot of money (its vet, its grooming, or its catsitter for some of them, or its hair everywhere in the house, or because it’s time to go on holiday, or for any other bad Reason. The law asks us not to adopt an animal which is younger than two months old… IN THE EYES OF THE law, in France, we can't LEAVE A SO YOUNG ANIMAL WITH ANYBODY which needs its mother till it IS at least three months old./////The end of the third part.

J'ai changé "according to law" (dans Word Reference, pas d'article : erreur ou pas ? Ça arrive quelquefois) en "in the eyes of the law". Merci pour ton lien internet !

C'est ma chatte, elle est un des membres de ma famille, je repasse à she/who :
😺 😺
My she-kitten came INTO my life at five weeks and a half, but had lost her mother when she was only three weeks old! She was very aggressive towards me for five years: my doctor, my friends, my sisters told me I should abandon her. I REFUSED TO DO SO that!!! My she-cat was in my life, and I had to learn so much about her behaviour... And naturally, I did! I never regretted keeping her near me, although she bit me and violently lacerated me because she could neither have self control, nor her EXCESSES OF ENERGY AND BAD feelings and her anger towards the noisy FLAT in which we were living! THEN we FINALLY MOVED THREE DAYS AGO, IN A QUIETER FLAT WITH ITS SMALL PRIVATE GARDEN WHICH BECAME, OVER THE YEARS, AN EARTHLY PARADISE. HENCEFORTH, my cat is fourteen years old, she keeps her cool, most of the time, providing that I also know how to read all her feelings… from her body language!/////The end of the fourth part.

😺😇😺

Have a very sweet Sunday!
See you soon.



Réponse : Texte/ Kittens de chocolatcitron, postée le 27-11-2019 à 16:23:31 (S | E)
Hello !
Je relance… Merci pour votre aide !
Bonne soirée !
Cordialement.



Réponse : Texte/ Kittens de here4u, postée le 27-11-2019 à 18:24:50 (S | E)
Hello!

Mais ... mais ... il n'y avait pas de défi !

Kittens are not toys. Their needs must be satisfied and they are very sensitive. Adoption is for ever, and people should know it is a NON-FLUCTUATING commitment ALL THE TIME (a constant/ relentless commitment) for the owner. We musn’t abandon an animal because we have got lots of problems in every day life, or because our pet is sick and REQUIRES a lot of money (its vet, its grooming, or its catsitter for some of them, or its hair everywhere in the house, or because it’s time to go on holiday, or for any other bad Reason. The law asks us not to adopt an animal which is younger than two months old… IN THE EYES OF THE law, in France, we can't LEAVE A SO YOUNG ANIMAL WITH ANYBODY which needs its mother(ton antécédent est "anybody" ...) till it IS at least three months old.
J'ai changé "according to law" (dans Word Reference, pas d'article : erreur ou pas ? Ça arrive quelquefois) en "in the eyes of the law". Merci pour ton lien internet ! J'ai "besoin" du the parce que la loi est bien déterminée ici (= the law on animal protection).

😺 😺
My she-kitten came INTO my life at five weeks and a half, but had lost her mother when she was only three weeks old! She was very aggressive towards me for five years: my doctor, my friends, my sisters told me I should abandon her. I REFUSED TO DO SO that!!! My she-cat was in my life, and I had to learn (so much) about her behaviour... And naturally, I did! I never regretted keeping her near me, although she bit me and violently lacerated me because she could neither have self control, nor her EXCESSES OF ENERGY AND BAD feelings and her anger towards the noisy FLAT in which we were living! THEN we FINALLY MOVED THREE DAYS AGO, IN A QUIETER FLAT WITH ITS SMALL PRIVATE GARDEN WHICH BECAME, OVER THE YEARS , AN EARTHLY PARADISE. HENCEFORTH, my cat is fourteen years old, she keeps her cool, most of the time, providing that I also know how to read all her feelings… from her body language!

😺😇😺 Thanks a lot, Choco !



Réponse : Texte/ Kittens de chocolatcitron, postée le 28-11-2019 à 03:25:21 (S | E)
Hello my dear Here4u!

Mais ... mais ... il n'y avait pas de défi ! Si, contre moi-même… et mon anglais trop souvent improbable… I'll WILL succeed in writing a correct English, won't I ? ❤️

Kittens are not toys. Their needs must be satisfied and they are very sensitive. Adoption is for ever, and people should know it is a CONSTANT () commitment for the owner. We musn’t abandon an animal because we have got lots of problems in every day life, or because our pet is sick and requires a lot of money (its vet, its grooming, or its catsitter for some of them, or its hair everywhere in the house, or because it’s time to go on holiday, or for any other bad REASON. The law asks us not to adopt an animal which is younger than two months old… ACCORDING TO THE LAW, (Ok, merci, j'ai compris) in France, we can't LEAVE AN ANIMAL SO YOUNG with SOMEBODY. KITTENS NEED THEIR MOTHERS till THEY ARE at least three months old.


😺 😺
My she-kitten came into my life at five weeks and a half, but had lost her mother when she was only three weeks old! She was very aggressive towards me for five years: my doctor, my friends, my sisters told me I should abandon her. I refused to do so!!! My she-cat was in my life, and I had to learn (so much) about her behaviour... And naturally, I did! I never regretted keeping her near me, although she bit me and lacerated me VIOLENTLY WITH HER CLAWS, OVER AND OVER HEAVILY CLINGING TO MY ARM, MY CAT WENT AT ME FIERCELY, ONLY FOUR SMALL KILOS, ENTIRELY IN MUSCLES, BOTH AN IMPRESSIVE STRENGTH AND A DETERMINATION TO MAKE ME PAY FOR HER PAIN FELT, because she could neither have self control, nor her EXCESSIVE ENERGY WHEN SHE FELT SO BAD, ALWAYS ANGRY AT THAT NOISY APARTMENT in which we were living! Then, we finally moved three YEARS ago, in a quieter flat with its small private garden which became, over the years, an earthly paradise. Henceforth, my cat is fourteen years old, she keeps her cool, most of the time, providing that I also know how to read all her feelings… from her body language!

😺😇😺 Thanks a lot, Here 4u!
Have a very sweet Week.
See you soon.



Réponse : Texte/ Kittens de chocolatcitron, postée le 01-12-2019 à 22:18:40 (S | E)
Hello !
Juste pour relancer…
Merci, à vous.
Cordialement.



Réponse : Texte/ Kittens de chocolatcitron, postée le 07-12-2019 à 22:05:59 (S | E)
Hello !
Juste pour relancer…
Merci, à vous.
Cordialement.



Réponse : Texte/ Kittens de here4u, postée le 08-12-2019 à 11:36:16 (S | E)
Hello, Dear Choco and her kittens! 😺😺😺

I'll WILL succeed in writing a correct English, won't I ? ❤️

Kittens are not toys. Their needs must be satisfied and they are very sensitive. Adoption is for ever, and people should know it is a CONSTANT commitment for the owner. We musn’t abandon an animal because we have got lots of problems in everyday life, or because our pet is sick and requires a lot of money (its vet, its grooming, or its catsitter for some of them, or its hair everywhere in the house, or because it’s time to go on holiday, or for any other bad REASON *. The law asks us not to adopt an animal which is younger than two months old… ACCORDING TO THE LAW, (Ok, merci, j'ai compris) in France, we can't LEAVE AN ANIMAL SO YOUNG with SOMEBODY. KITTENS NEED THEIR MOTHERS till THEY ARE at least three months old.

* la phrase soulignée est maladroite, sans vraiment contenir de "fautes" ... Elle est trop calquée sur le français ...
On comprend mal comment les poils de chats coûtent cher - sauf en brosses ou lavages ! )
Tu n'as pas fermé ta parenthèse ... Cette phrase est beaucoup trop longue et "parlée", pas assez construite ...
😺 😺

My she-kitten came into my life at five weeks and a half, but had lost her mother when she was only three weeks old! She was very aggressive towards me for five years: my doctor, my friends, my sisters told me I should abandon her. I refused to do so!!! My she-cat was in my life, and I had to learn about her behaviour... Naturally, I did! I never regretted keeping her near me, although she bit me and lacerated me VIOLENTLY WITH HER CLAWS, OVER AND OVER, HEAVILY CLINGING TO MY ARM, MY CAT WENT AT ME FIERCELY, FOUR SMALL KILOS of MUSCLES, BOTH AN IMPRESSIVE STRENGTH AND A DETERMINATION TO MAKE ME PAY FOR HER PAIN she had FELT(, idem.... Ta phrase est BEAUCOUP TROP LONGUE) trop de coordinations. mets de la ponctuation et des liens logiques ...) because she could neither have self control, nor her EXCESSIVE ENERGY WHEN SHE FELT SO BAD, ALWAYS ANGRY AT THAT NOISY APARTMENT in which we were living! ( (What a sentence! The reader is exhausted here and has to strat over again! Help your reader more!) Then(1), (3 we finally moved) (2 three YEARS ago), inTO a quieter flat with its small private garden. (coupe! et reprends logiquement) which (2 XX became,) (1 over the years,) 3 an earthly paradise. Henceforth, my cat is fourteen years old, she keeps her cool, most of the time, providing that I also know how to read all her feelings… from her body language! 😺




Réponse : Texte/ Kittens de chocolatcitron, postée le 08-12-2019 à 22:48:25 (S | E)
Hello, Dear Here4u!
Thanks, sorry for my too long sentences… which exhausted you!

I WILL (beginner's mistake !) succeed in writing correct English, won't I ? ❤️

Kittens are not toys. Their needs must be satisfied and they are very sensitive. Adoption is for ever, and people should know it is a constant commitment for the owner. We must abandon an animal NEITHER because we have got lots of problems in everyday life, NOR because our pet is sick and requires a lot of money (its vet, its grooming, or its catsitter for some of them). OF COURSE, its hair OVERRUNS everywhere in the house, SO WHAT ? WE MUST DO WITH THAT PROBLEM ! WHO WILL COME TO TAKE CARE OF HIM DURING OUR VACATION? WHAT ELSE ? PETS ARE ABJECTLY ABANDONNED ALWAYS FOR ANY OTHER BAD REASON. The law asks us not to adopt an animal which is younger than two months old… According to the law, in France, we can't leave an animal so young with somebody. Kittens need their mothers till they are at least three months old.

* je l'ai raccourcie, et j'ai essayé de la rendre plus vivante et plus compréhensible. Merci à toi !
On comprend mal comment les poils de chats coûtent cher - sauf en brosses ou lavages ! Non, certains les abandonnent car ils en ont assez d'avoir des poils de partout… ou que soudain, ils deviennent allergiques : faut le vérifier avant l'adoption !


My she-kitten came into my life at five weeks and a half, but had lost her mother when she was only three weeks old! She was very aggressive towards me for five years. MY doctor, my friends, my sisters told me I should abandon her. I refused to do so!!! My she-cat was in my life, and I had to learn about her behaviour… Naturally, I did! I never regretted keeping her near me, although she bit me and lacerated me. She LEAPT ON ME, violently with her claws, over and over, heavily clinging to my arm. She went at me fiercely: four small kilos of FURIOUS muscles, WITH both an impressive strength and a determination to make me pay for her pain she had felt. WHY DID SHE HAVE HER EXCESSIVE ENERGY AND FELT SO BAD? She could NOT have self control BECAUSE SHE HADN'T BEEN TAUGHT how to do! KITTENS'MOTHERS TEACH THEM ABOUT EVERYTHING: NOT HERS: SHE COULDN'T… I HAD TO TEACH HER HOW TO DRINK, TO EAT, TO WASH HER FACE, TO USE HER LITTER, … , SO THAT SHE NO LONGER FEAR THE MIRRORS, HER SHADOW…, AS IF I WERE A CAT. HOWEVER SHE WAS ALWAYS ANGRY AT THAT NOISY APARTMENT in which we were living! Then, THREE YEARS AGO, WE FINALLY MOVED into a quieter flat with its small private garden. OVER THE YEARS, THAT RUBBISH TIP HAD BECOME an earthly paradise. Henceforth, my FOURTEEN-YEAR-OLD cat keeps her cool, most of the time, providing that I also know how to read all her feelings… from her body language! 😺


Rubbish tip : terre de remblai, de laquelle j'ai retiré gravats, sacs plastiques, etc. Maintenant, sa surface est propre et aménagée en jardin anglais !
Là aussi, j'ai essayé d'être plus claire…, en fracturant ma phrase. Merci à toi Here4u! C'est une belle course de fond !
She taught me a lot about cats'psychology!😺

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Modifié par chocolatcitron le 09-12-2019 13:20





Réponse : Texte/ Kittens de here4u, postée le 09-12-2019 à 08:55:22 (S | E)
Hello!

Très vite, choco ... juste une remarque dont tu VAS TE SOUVENIR .... Devant les langues, pas d’article => he speaks good English/ writes formal French/ speaks fluent German etc. ( sauf lorsque le genre de langue est déterminé par « of » ou « that » qui introduit une proposition ( the French that he has learnt ....)
Je continue ma course éperdue .... et regarde ta correction dès que possible ...



Réponse : Texte/ Kittens de gerondif, postée le 09-12-2019 à 19:39:59 (S | E)
Bonjour
sur le texte du 23/11, j'aurais dit hang around pour "tourner autour de", pas turn around.



Réponse : Texte/ Kittens de gerondif, postée le 10-12-2019 à 00:00:55 (S | E)
Bonjour
Quelques indications.erreurs en bleu
I will eventually succeed in writing correct English, won't I ? (eventually = en fin de compte. Sens: Je finirai bien par....

Kittens are not toys. Their needs must be satisfied and they are very sensitive. Adoption is for ever, and people should know it is a constant commitment for the owner. We must (should irait bien aussi) abandon an animal NEITHER because we have got lots of problems in everyday life, NOR because our pet is sick and requires a lot of money (its vet, its grooming, or its catsitter for some of them). OF COURSE, its hair OVERRUNS (bizarrre , ce verbe qui s'applique plutôt à de l'herbe qui pousse partout. everywhere in the house (si vous gardez everywhere, le plus courant est de dire its hair is to be found everywhere in the house. Mais il est courant aussi de prendre comme complément "in the whole house ave cun verbe comme pervade, invade...), SO WHAT ? WE MUST DO WITH THAT PROBLEM (il existe le verbe to cope with a problem) ! WHO WILL COME TO TAKE (l'anglais a tendance à dire come and help me, go and help her) CARE OF HIM DURING OUR VACATION? WHAT ELSE ? PETS ARE ABJECTLY ABANDONNED ALWAYS FOR ANY OTHER BAD REASON (maladroit, j'aurais fait porter always sur le verbe et terminé par for some bad reason or other. Any prête à confusion). The law asks us not to adopt an animal which is younger than (less than) two months old… According to the law, in France, we can't leave (plutôt confier que laisser qui a un peu le sens d'abandonner) an animal so young(ne se dit pas trop, l'anglais préfère such a young animal.) with somebody. Kittens need their mothers till they are at least three months old.


My she-kitten came into my life at(on voit plus souvent "aged") five weeks and a half, but had lost her mother when she was only three weeks old! She was very aggressive towards me for five years. MY doctor, my friends, my sisters told me I should abandon her. I refused to do so!!! My she-cat was in my life, and I had to learn about her behaviour… Naturally, I did (on dira plutôt and that's what I did)! I never regretted keeping her near me, although she bit me and lacerated me. She LEAPT ON ME (c'est vraiment le verbe sauter au sens sportif, pas agressif, je verrais plutôt she would set on me au sens de se jeter sur quelqu'un), violently with her claws, over and over, heavily clinging to my arm. She went at me fiercely: four small kilos of FURIOUS muscles, WITH both an impressive strength and a determination to make me pay for her(non impossible puisque c'est défini ensuite par une relative. Remplacer par the) pain she had felt. WHY DID SHE HAVE HER(en trop) EXCESSIVE ENERGY AND FELT(si did she est en dénominateur commun, alors, ce felt est faux) SO BAD? She could NOT have self control BECAUSE SHE HADN'T BEEN TAUGHT how to do so! KITTENS'MOTHERS TEACH THEM ABOUT EVERYTHING: NOT HERS (Hers didn't serait plus courant): SHE COULDN'T… I HAD TO TEACH HER HOW TO DRINK, TO EAT, TO WASH HER FACE, TO USE HER LITTER, … , SO THAT SHE NO LONGER FEAR (prétérit) THE MIRRORS, HER SHADOW…, AS IF I WERE A CAT. HOWEVER SHE WAS ALWAYS ANGRY AT(ou because of) THAT NOISY APARTMENT in which we were living! Then, THREE YEARS AGO, WE FINALLY MOVED into a quieter flat with its small private garden. OVER THE YEARS, THAT RUBBISH TIP HAD (had ou has ?) BECOME an earthly paradise. Henceforth(signifie from now on, à partir de maintenant, alors que j'ai l'impression qu'il faudrait dire from then on, point de départ dans le passé avec un verbe au prétérit.),(ou alors, on part de eversince, depuis lors et on met du present perfect sur keep) my FOURTEEN-YEAR-OLD cat keeps her cool, most of the time, providing that I also know how to read all her feelings… from her body language! 😺




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