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Affirmative/ negative

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Affirmative/ negative
Message from mohammad51 posted on 04-02-2023 at 03:39:32 (D | E | F)
Hello
Please guide me with this lesson in grammar.
Thank you in advance.
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I noticed that people use different ways; some of which seem not usual or likely different English.

For these two simple sentences :

affirmative : Everyone loves him.
Negative : No one hates him. Or There is no one who does not love him. Or There is no one but loves him.

They change the verb ( love ) to ( hate ) = opposite
No one hates him = loves him so it is same meaning ( everyone loves him)

Everyone likes him. Perhaps I can say ( Everyone dislikes him ) But they don't accept to this way !

The would say : No one hates him \ Nobody hates him.

I am not sure whether these ways are acceptable by native speakers or not.

Moreover, some pages tell that a sentence begins with ( No one ) is considered affirmative ?

No one hate me. No one speaks with me. = affirmative ? So how is it affirmative ?


Please guide me to find a good book of grammar which is standard for these.

I searched the whole books in Google, but didn't find any book except books authored by indian.


Re: Affirmative/ negative from gerondif, posted on 08-02-2023 at 19:17:09 (D | E)
Hello
Everyone loves him means he is very popular.
Negative : No one hates him.doesn't have to mean that everybody likes him. It could mean : Nobody hates him, yet, he is not as popular as he would like to be.

There is no-one who does not love him. Is another way to say it : He is popular everywhere.
There is no one but loves him. seems rarer (or more rare as I see in novels)

No one hates him = everyone loves him .
Yes and no, if we consider that grading:
* I like it.
** I enjoy it.
***I love it.
****I adore it
( ) I don't mind it.
*I don't like it. /I dislike it.
** I hate it.
*** I can't stand it / I can't bear it

The opposite of I don't hate him could be one grade or another.

Everyone likes him.
"Everybody dislikes him" does exist, it means he is not very popular with people, he is not their cup of tea. Everybody objects to him.

No one hates him \ Nobody hates him.

Moreover, some pages tell that a sentence begins with ( No one ) is considered affirmative ?
One way to check that is to use a tag and see which form it would take.

a) No one hate him. b) Neither do I ! so "No one" does turn the sentence into a negative meaning, even if the verb is not in the negative form :
They all hate him (+) So do I (+) Do They ? I don't !!
a) Nobody hates him! (negative meaning) b) I do !! (I take the opposite view )
a) Nobody hit him !! b) Neither did I (I agree with a negative statement.

No one speaks with me. = affirmative ? The verb is in the affirmative form because the subject is negative, meaning "zero person".
a) No one speaks with him ! b) I don't speak with him either = Neither do I . I agree with a negative statement.

I searched the whole books in Google, but didn't find any book except books authored by indian.
You can search somebody, or search a place for drugs or search the net for grammar-books, but you can't search books, you looked for grammar-books all over the Internet.



Re: Affirmative/ negative from mohammad51, posted on 25-02-2023 at 10:41:57 (D | E)
Thank you very much dear teacher gerondif




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